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Jim Stone
Jim Stone
Vaccine Troll Methodology
One of the main things vaccine trolls do is to say people who are
against vaccines "do not understand science" and imply that if you are
against vaccines, you must be stupid. I recommend people answer such
trolls with the following, because it is pure science, and when you do
re-post, ask the troll, "what about THIS science?"
The following sequence of presentation works. This was quoted from this
web site and posted to a popular forum, (GLP) where it took off like
wildfire. The forum then deleted it. If you re-post this elsewhere as it is presented, it is guaranteed to work, what happened at GLP proved it:
Here is exactly how the brain destroying vaccines are made: Forget Thimerosal, this is the science behind how it is done.
OP posted: (quote from this web site)
For every vaccine, you need a medium to grow your pathogens in
(pathogens which are neutralized after being grown, but will still
trigger an immune response.) In the past, when vaccines were beneficial, the pathogens were grown in animal tissue, such as dog, monkey, cat, etc. If
there was an adverse reaction to vaccines grown in animal tissue, the
worst that would happen is you would get an allergy for that animal.
Vaccines were the reason for pet allergies in the past.
The criminal elite knew all along however, that if there ever was a
way to grow pathogens in human tissue, that it would be possible to
cause many people to develop an immune reaction against their own
bodies, and that as a result they could create any malady they wanted by
causing people's immune systems to attack their own bodies. And in the
mid 1980´s this became possible. And the autism stats coincide with
the introduction of vaccines grown in human tissue PERFECTLY.
Now a majority of vaccines are grown in human tissue derived from
abortion. And when, as an unavoidable consequence human tissue is
attached to whatever pathogen they grow, the immune system identifies
the pathogen, and everything that is with it, as the enemy. They claim
they get ALL the human tissue out of the vaccines to avoid this problem
but this is a lie, because it is proven that vaccines grown in human
tissue have 2 micrograms per milliliter of human DNA in them, and that
is just DNA, the human proteins and other human materials are present in
amounts that are orders of magnitude more. When the immune system sees
these materials in the presence of a pathogen, it gets programmed to
destroy not only the pathogen, but all materials related to it and then
proceeds to attack the body.
This is not opinion, it is the result of research I did years ago in
cooperation with a PHD in pharmacology, who warned me this is exactly
what the new vaccines are designed to do - re program the immune
system's macrophages to destroy whatever in the body the people who
control the vaccine manufacturing process want destroyed. In the
case of the MMR vaccine, this is obviously the brain. Every child who
receives the MMR vaccine gets at least a 10 point IQ reduction for life,
and the worst hit develop full blown autism.
And when I explain it this way to medical doctors, I have never had a
single one say "no, that cannot be so", they all see it as a self
evident truth.
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How to choose a (safer) vaccine
This will not help you avoid vaccine problems completely, but will
at
least help you choose one that is the least damaging option if you are
forced to.
The vaccines listed in red are the most dangerous vaccines. These are
vaccines that can trigger auto immune disorders against the body itself,
because they are derived from human cells that had their origins in
abortion. Even if the origin was not abortion, creating vaccines in
human cell cultures would be just as dangerous. Massive problems with
autism occurred after vaccines that were grown in human cell cultures
were created, the link is so obvious that it amounts to proof that it
was done on purpose to damage any child that received them, with the
worst damage showing it as autism.
The most important information is below this table, this is a lengthy article.
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Anonymous Coward:
Thanks for posting I read it all it sums up a lot of what I have read
over the years (scientific papers etc.) Keep up the good work
Op continues: (quote from this web site)
The NYU child study center in New York KNOWS THIS. They know this
because it is such basic medical self evident truth that it is flatly
impossible for ANYONE involved in the study of autism in even more than a
surface way to not know it. And their blocking of the showing of
Vaxxed PROVES THEY KNOW IT BEYOND ALL DOUBT.
The excuse they used to get human cell cultures into the vaccine
production process was that "it avoided all chance of having animal DNA
cause problems". Such problems showed themselves as allergies to pets,
(if you get a vaccine that is based on cat or dog cell cultures, you are
likely to become allergic to cats or dogs) and this is because there is
no way to completely remove the host cells from the pathogens they were
used to grow. Since these cell fragments are in the presence of the
disease they were used to grow, both are identified by the immune system
as an enemy of the body, so when a cat or dog is around after getting
the shot, an immune response is triggered toward the cat or dog, which
manifests itself as an allergy. So the lie was created, that if human
cells were used, allergies and other side effects would be avoided.
The problem with this is, they can't get the human cell fragments out of
the vaccines completely either. And they know it. When a vaccine
created in a human cell culture is injected into a human, those cell
fragments, proteins, and DNA fragments are identified by the immune
system as an enemy of the body also, just like a dog or cat cell
fragment would be. Since the "enemy" is seen by the immune system as the
body itself, it causes the immune system to turn the allergy inward,
against the body itself, and the immune system then proceeds to attack
the body from the inside. The results are devastating, and have been
labeled "auto immune disorders". When the "auto immune disorder"
triggers an attack on the brain, it results in reduced intelligence and
the worst affected exhibit this as autism.
There is no conceivable way the vaccine manufacturers, FDA, and all
other medical professionals do not know this. If your doctor denies
this, your doctor is either totally incompetent, totally ignorant, or an
outright scammer. Maybe your doctor trusts the system and walks the
world with a brain that is turned off. But more and more, doctors are at
least aknowledging that many of the vaccines are awful, though it seems
they never cared to figure out why.
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Op continues: (quote from this web site)
Truthful researchers know EXACTLY WHY: Autism Link to Foetal Tissue in Vaccines
A recent study by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has
confirmed 1988 as a "change point" in the rise of Autism Disorder rates
in the U.S. - a date that pro-life leaders say correlates with the
introduction of fetal cells for use in vaccines.
While the EPA study does not speculate into the cause of the jump in
autism rates, and makes no mention of aborted fetal cells, the
researchers point out that it "is important to determine whether a
preventable exposure to an environmental factor may be associated with
the increase."
According to the pro-life group Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute
(SCPI), which specializes in vaccine research, that "environmental
factor" may well be the use of aborted fetal cells in vaccines.
The group pointed out in its most recent newsletter that 1988 is the
same year the U.S. Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices began
recommending a second dose of the MMR vaccine, which included cells
derived from the tissue of aborted babies.
Analyses of autism rate data published by SCPI identify 3 clear change
points in U.S. autism disorder trends: 1981, 1988 and 1995, all of which
the groups claims roughly correlate with the use of vaccines (Meruvax,
MMRII, and Chickenpox) that were cultivated with the use of tissue from
aborted children. The group says that it has been unable to identify any
other factor that might correlate to the change in autism rates.
My comment: The correlation is so obvious that denial is beyond
criminal. The power structure knows exactly what is going on with this.
There is an overt attempt underway to divide mankind into two groups -
the masses who have been destroyed by vaccine triggered auto immune
responses, and the elite, who know how to avoid their own weapon and are
therefore never hit by it.
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Op continues:
Vaccine Science & Options
Vaccines help eradicate many diseases throughout the world.
The production of vaccines involves growing a virus in living cells.
Historically they have been manufactured by using animal cell lines that
contain the Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA) of that animal. Within the
final product some residual living DNA remains as a contaminant in the
vaccine as it cannot all be filtered out. In 1979 changes were
introduced to vaccine manufacturing previously made in animal cell lines
to manufacturing in human fetal cell lines. Therefore with each dose of
the vaccines newly manufactured on human cells we are injecting
children and adults with residual human fetal DNA and in some cases a
retrovirus.
It is a well understood scientific fact that loose, living human DNA in a
human can insert into the genome of that human. As the DNA in the genes
govern the function of cells, such DNA insertions can seriously disrupt
the function of the invaded cell. If this lose DNA invades the genes
governing the function of a nerve cell in the brain, such disruption can
have devastating consequences. Therefore, SCPI researches the potential
health risks of the residual human DNA found in the products we use.
Many scientists have now hypothesized that cancer and other childhood
neurological diseases such as autistic disorder are caused by mutations
in the childs DNA. This conclusion is based upon finding numerous
mutations in the brains and/or blood of such children which cannot be
found in their parents, these are called de novo mutations. They are
caused by something that happens to the child after birth. SCPI
researches have extensively reviewed the potential health risks posed by
this residual human DNA. Based upon that research, SCPI does ongoing
research and seeks to raise awareness of the potential health risks of
manufacturing medical products on human cell lines.
The chart above came from Sound Choice.org and I can clearly state they
are under attack and are in the censor bot big time. Google will not
pull them up until you type their name directly in which proves
censorship, because it is Google's job to help you find web sites, and
if you already have the name, you already found it, and it will be
obvious if Google stops you at that point.
SECOND THING WITH THAT WEB SITE: The web filters lie and call it an
attack site, especially the actual chart, if you decide to try to
download it from the original source. Click This:
[link to cogforlife.org]
or this:
link to vaccine chart
(Google Chrome WILL Give you problems with this, use Firefox or Explorer instead)
It is the original source for the chart above. You will probably get a
warning screen. If it comes in, the slander bots were programmed to
quickly respond to what I posted and you won't realize just how much
this is getting attacked. If you see a warning screen, have fun trying
to download it and witness the censorship first hand. There is a reason
why I ripped it to GIF and posted it as an image that comes in
automatically, and that is because there are five separate warning
screens telling you it is a virus, and the last step will say "file does
not exist" and only when you hit "try again" will it come in. The elite
do not want that chart out in the general public, and this proves it.
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This should be PERMA-PINNED, dude!
That is the easiest and best spelled-out explanation
of what is going on with autism... and PROBABLY a lot of
other current diseases people have in the U.S.A. that
I have read yet! Great job. I'm bookmarking this for
further reading--keep this going. It is really important.
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You know what OP?
I knew this in my heart years ago.
It just came to me one day.
And now you have confirmed what I already knew.
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speechless. I've done my fair share of homework and never knew this.
Better copy this thread it may disappear. Thanks for sharing.
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The thread went on and on like this. I am certain it will
eventually get flushed permanently (after getting put back up but not on
the front page) so I will go through it and get some of the testimonies
of those who have been wrecked by vaccines put up. Here are a few:
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This shit makes me so angry sometimes...
I had to get a second round of shots when I moved to a different city
between 2nd and 3rd grade. I went from being the most motivated, most
competetive, most intellectually advanced, most socially aware, and most
loved kid by both my peers and teachers... I went from all of that to
not knowing how to talk to people and make friends, to having horrible
gastrointestinal problems, to not caring about trying in school (because
I still did fine without even trying), to having anxiety for no reason,
to having horrible allergies...
I was scouted by Duke University in the 2nd grade. I was a leader and
second teacher for my peers, both male and female. I knew how to break
down all divisions, I was a uniter. After I got the 2nd round of
vaccines, I was devastated. I was so confused and went through so much
humiliation up throughout high school.
Today, I'm 28 years old and I have to take supplements to function in
daily life. I am, however, now taking large strides to attaining my own
happiness. I have found the love of my life, I love what I do (manage a
farmers market), and I have moved outside of the city right on a river
in the hills. I attribute all of this to my continued love of the
Creator and all of humanity and to my constant search for what is True
in this crazy world.
But still, I have vivid memories of the standout kid I once was... and sometimes it makes me so angry...
Of course they are making us allergic to ourselves. I'm sure this is
rooted in the depopulation agenda. When a woman gets pregnant, the body
will identify the fetus as a foreign invader thus increasing the
likelihood of miscarriage.
It's a crazy world, people. Stay strong.
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thank you for this information, again, I will send it to my daughter
who has ignored what vaccines did to her first set of kids, and is now
responsible for two more ... and slightly more aware ...
unfortunately she chose to give her kids the worst vaccine (MMR) and
avoid the other (less harmful) ones... even though as a kid, she had
Measles Mumps and Rubella and it didn't effect her in any way shape or
form PERMANENTLY
wtf Mothers - are you thinking... WHY would you take ANY risk of being
responsible for ruining you child's life... are you that retarded (too)
?
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Interesting, my whole personality changed at a point in my life that I recall a tetanus shot. I"ll have to think about that.
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Any info on the meningitis vaccine? I don't see it on the list. I'm
killing myself for letting my college bound kid get it as it was
"mandatory" even though I was against it. I didn't research hard enough
because it was apparently not has difficult as I had been led to believe
to waive it. He had the worst year of his life after that. I hate
myself every day for giving him that. I think it's an excuse to get all
the kids later who might have escaped some of the worst vaccines 20
years ago.
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I developed mild OCD after having a tetanus vaccine. It lasted a couple years and ruined my life. Lost my job and got divorced.
I am fine now by drinking a half gallon of water a day and a half gallon if green juice and running 3 miles a day for 6 months.
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I went from no allergies at all to serious pet allergies after receiving
the tetanus vaccine, now 15 years later it finally cleared up and I
don't care what I get impaled on I won't be treating it with a vaccine.
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I've been aware of this for a few years now. I explain to people they
become allergic to their own bodies in much the same way you become
allergic to bees. The proteins are injected triggering an immune
response. Also explains the peanut allergies. Some of the vaccines
contain peanut oil.
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The instant the MMR vaccine hit my body I lost consciousness and began to convulse.
Not long after I became too wimpy to do my job. I got depression and
headaches. I was never as robust as before the MMR. Over time, I got
symptoms of lupus.
I avoid docs. They have proven only helpful for doing things like setting broken bones.
Docs, you have accrued bad karma. I know you didn't mean to. Think before you post here.
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My cousin has a young baby and he hates vaccines but I can only pray for
them because society and the system pretty much have people locked and
strapped in. God have mercy. If it were safe it wouldn't be so forced,
its obvious some bullshit is going down and people having hard core
Stockholm syndrome.
It will be like after Hitler blew his head off and the Germans went to
the camps and were like "OH! They were killing people in our back yard
the whole time!"
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I have looked into this also (serious study on this topic,) and you are
right - the multivalent (combo) vaccines are worse. If the law ever
comes down that it is detention camps, child theft, or vaccines, and
they really can force the vaccines, IF YOU HAVE TO and you have a
choice, try to assemble everything you need to the bare minimum from
vaccines that only treat one thing and get a bunch of shots. Also, when
you choose your vaccine, make sure you get one that was not grown in
aborted fetal cell cultures. The 8 chan link that goes to the chart
came from one of my posts, and it will help you avoid vaccines grown in
fetal tissue, which are no doubt the most damaging. You should be able
to opt out of those and ask for an alternative on ethical grounds.
However, it will not guarantee you are safe, because they are now
splicing human genes into other organisms, (yeast is a common one) and
the yeast will now produce proteins and DNA that are only in the human
body. Vaccines made that way are bad also.
Here is the entire post, as it appeared on this web site Saturday morning:
More on the Autism scam
The article about the organization that had VAAXED pulled will be
top posted tomorrow, because it might have the address for some of the
main players who are developing the most damaging possible vaccines.
To say it in a line: It appears research and feedback for what will
work to produce the next generation of brain destroying vaccines is
being done by the Autism Research Center in New York. On that note, GB
wrote (and this is really damning) :
"Read your article about the movie "Vaxxed" being pulled and did a
little looking into who's running those hospitals mentioned in your
article. Spent a fair amount of time checking out their web pages and
couldn't find hardly any info on whose in charge of the hospitals or
their purse strings.
Here's what I did find out and it's no surprise:
Rockland Children's Psychiatric Center? Good luck finding out whose in charge of this outfit.
http://www.omh.ny.gov/omhweb/facilities/rcpc/employment.htm
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Bellevue Hospital Center. Another outfit that keeps who's in charge hidden on their web page. Which tells me one thing.
http://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/bellevue/html/home/home.shtml
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Nathan S. Kline Institute for Psychiatric Research, funded by New York state, and by the feds and run by Jews.
http://www.rfmh.org/nki/
Security is provided by "The New York State Office of Mental Health
Police (OMH Police) is a law enforcement agency that provides safety and
security services to the New York State Office of Mental Health."
Budget is almost 4 BILLION a year. How much goes to 'security' is
unknown. Maybe they have some sham outfit like ICTS helping them out?
http://www.omh.ny.gov/omhweb/budget/2015/
"Mental Health Police" staffed by Chosenites at all levels.
http://www.omh.ny.gov/omhweb/orgchart/orgchart.htm
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Bonus: The one whose in charge of city finances, Scott Stringer, and the
160 BILLION in NYC pension fund monies, has an interesting past. Any
bets as to how much of that money is invested in Israel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Stringer#Controversy
My response: Good work, and the amount of money you are talking about here would go a long way towards rebuilding America's highways. Five billion budget to protect a "mental health" facility? What are they doing there that requires that level of security?
If you were running a research center that was focusing on destroying
an entire race and civilization, perhaps such a budget, to keep the
utmost secrecy, would be needed. The security budget alone
proves corruption at the highest level, fitting that it would be
happening in the vicinity of those who are using the children they
damaged with the last batch of vaccines as guinea pigs to figure out how
to make the next damaging vaccine "better". I have explained this quite well in the main report for those of you who did not see it.
The people who are working to formulate the next batch of brain
destroying vaccines may have busted their own selves by blocking Vaxxed
at Tribeca.
The real reason why Vaxxed was pulled
There are many reasons being tossed about with regard to why Vaxxed was
not shown at the Tribeca film festival in New York. Here is the real
reason: Powerful people owned a center for research on autistic
children, and did not want a slow down in the flow of children through
that center. NO SHT. And Vaxxed was also banned in Houston because it
"went against mainstream medicine, which Houston provides funding for."
We now live in a nation with a phony government put in power by rigged
elections, and evil cronies who actively seek the destruction of
children, just to make sure their supply of destroyed children is not
cut off. NO SHT.
Here is a statement from the NYU Child Center's website:
"At the Child Study Center, the Center for Neurodevelopmental Disorders
(CND) is committed to research in neurodevelopmental disorders,
leveraging establish[ed] strengths in Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADHD and
animal studies on early development, as well as collaborating closely
with our clinical partners."
The Center has an Autism Spectrum Disorders Clinical and Research
Program, where it carries out orthodox and "cutting edge" work on
autism.
And the Center is expanding. This is a big-time operation:
"The NYU Child Study Center has three main affiliates: the Nathan S.
Kline Institute for Psychiatric Research (NKI), Rockland Children’s
Psychiatric Center (RCPC), and Bellevue Hospital Center."
A film that claims to show a link between the MMR vaccine and autism
would be a hideous affront to the NYU Child Study Center, where Craig
Hatkoff, co-founder of the Tribeca Film Festival, sits on the Board.
YES, NYU CHILD CENTER REALLY ONLY WANTS TO HELP THE CHILDREN. So they need children to help, RIGHT? Why cut off the flow with a stupid film that might dent your business? Read more here
And now I will say it like it is: Craig Hatkoff IS THE ENEMY. He has
set his "Autism research center" out in the open, as an open target of
action from parents with destroyed babies. He has seen this film, and
blocked it, to ensure autism thrives. That is an act of war against
humanity, from someone who false fronts a position of "trying to help".
It is the same old filth we see everywhere, but this time we have a
name, address, and organization that is actively seeking to create as
many autistic children as possible.
You cannot tell me that anyone who runs an autism center does not
know the cause of autism is vaccines, especially after seeing and
denying this film. If he thought the film was bunk, he would not have
stopped it. If it was bunk, showing it would not have impacted his
business. A MAJOR "AUTISM RESEARCH CENTER" HAS CONFIRMED VAXXED IS
REAL, AND SHUT IT DOWN. AND THEY HAVE AN ADDRESS:
I cannot get
over to Park Avenue to discuss this issue with them, perhaps someone
else can. And I suggest you bring back up, because I have learned from
experience that when you get criminals of the type that run places like
these, if you mumble ONE WORD of truth - if you even mention their
blocking of this film, or that vaccines cause autism, they will
IMMEDIATELY CALL THE POLICE even if you did absolutely nothing wrong.
And you won't know they called, the police will just magically show up.
Record everything if you do anything. This center is no doubt at
the center of the autism scam, and NO DOUBT provides feedback to the
elite establishment about how to tweak the vaccines to do damage in a
more "preferable" way. I do not believe it is their goal to stop autism,
I believe it is their goal to make autism perfect.
It makes little difference that this center said "vaxxed should be
shown, but just not in New York". Them saying Vaxxed should be shown is
their false front of openness, if Vaxxed should be shown, according to
them, there is no better place than their own back yard. The same
excuse was given in Texas - "that it should be shown, just not here",
and by saying this, they avoid complicity in the autism scam, while they
silence the truth and ensure every child has a chance to be destroyed.
YES, THAT SHOULD BE SHOWN, GO SOMEHWERE ELSE.
Every scam, such as the MMR vaccine and other damaging vaccines -
EVERY SCAM needs it's feedback to help it improve, and that scam has to
be out in the public to be useful. I believe the NYU child study center
is one such feedback source, giving the vaccine makers the latest
updates on what their vaccines did, and what can be changed to make them
"better". And they hung their own behinds out to dry by blocking
Vaxxed, and allowed the public to know beyond a doubt exactly WHERE a
major hive of child destroyers hangs out.
Here is exactly how the brain destroying vaccines are made:
Forget Thimerosal, this is how it is done:
For every vaccine, you need a medium to grow your pathogens in
(pathogens which are neutralized after being grown, but will still
trigger an immune response.) In the past, when vaccines were beneficial, the pathogens were grown in animal tissue, such as dog, monkey, cat, etc. If
there was an adverse reaction to vaccines grown in animal tissue, the
worst that would happen is you would get an allergy for that animal.
Vaccines were the reason for pet allergies in the past.
The criminal elite knew all along however, that if there ever was a
way to grow pathogens in human tissue, that it would be possible to
cause many people to develop an immune reaction against their own
bodies, and that as a result they could create any malady they wanted by
causing people's immune systems to attack their own bodies. And in the
mid 1980´s this became possible. And the autism stats coincide with
the introduction of vaccines grown in human tissue PERFECTLY.
Now a majority of vaccines are grown in human tissue derived from
abortion. And when, as an unavoidable consequence human tissue is
attached to whatever pathogen they grow, the immune system identifies
the pathogen, and everything that is with it, as the enemy. They claim
they get ALL the human tissue out of the vaccines to avoid this problem
but this is a lie, because it is proven that vaccines grown in human
tissue have 2 micrograms per milliliter of human DNA in them, and that
is just DNA, the human proteins and other human materials are present in
amounts that are orders of magnitude more. When the immune system sees
these materials in the presence of a pathogen, it gets programmed to
destroy not only the pathogen, but all materials related to it and then
proceeds to attack the body.
This is not opinion, it is the result of research I did years ago in
cooperation with a PHD in pharmacology, who warned me this is exactly
what the new vaccines are designed to do - re program the immune
system's macrophages to destroy whatever in the body the people who
control the vaccine manufacturing process want destroyed. In the
case of the MMR vaccine, this is obviously the brain. Every child who
receives the MMR vaccine gets at least a 10 point IQ reduction for life,
and the worst hit develop full blown autism.
And when I explain it this way to medical doctors, I have never had a
single one say "no, that cannot be so", they all see it as a self
evident truth.
The NYU child study center in New York KNOWS THIS. They know
this because it is such basic medical self evident truth that it is
flatly impossible for ANYONE involved in the study of autism in even
more than a surface way to not know it. And their blocking of the
showing of Vaxxed PROVES THEY KNOW IT BEYOND ALL DOUBT.
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